WTF?! Where are my injured troops?

Augustus

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Just been attacked by a Vamp player. Sent away apart from Immobile units. Got 63% injury, so I check how many of each Im getting back...

SGTs-lost 8 mill, returning 0
Spike Traps-lost 2 mill,returning 0
Steel Walls-lost 500k, returning 0
Bunker-lost 60k, returning 14k
Sentry-lost 11k, returning 4k

What is going on?? I thought the Vamp injury bug had been fixed. Can anyone explain this BS??
 

f0xx

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Re: WTF?! Where are my injured troops?

Ehrm... well the only possible explenations are:

1. The bug with vamps not giving injuries is still not fixed (But I have attacked vamp players a few times and I get normal injury rates and the actual returning troops)

2. Ehm... some bug with immobile units not being able to return... (But you have bunkers returning).

3. Some strange combination of the 2 mentioned above...
 

moorer

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Re: WTF?! Where are my injured troops?

I got attacked by a Vamp, lost 500k Spikes and 7.5m SGT's and got not a single one back.

Maybe as traps are not "human" they cannot be injured lol.
 

Melnibone

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Re: WTF?! Where are my injured troops?

yeah i can confirm it happened to me too i lost 7mil sleeps and 6mil spikes only 40k of my 120k bunkers survived but they were killed by gargs
 

Augustus

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Re: WTF?! Where are my injured troops?

So its not just me whos experienced this. I would like to hear a proper explanation of this as it makes no sense IMO. Very unfair if its only SO routes that are affected by what seems like a bug with the injury system.
 

vlad

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Re: WTF?! Where are my injured troops?

Augustus said:
So its not just me whos experienced this. I would like to hear a proper explanation of this as it makes no sense IMO. Very unfair if its only SO routes that are affected by what seems like a bug with the injury system.

We had a very similar topic arrise in the Helper Section ingame, so the issue has been forwarded on to Azzer for further invetigation. I suggest making of permanent note of what was lost, the battle reports and injury rates, and what you got back, incase Azzer might need to check some stuff out.
 

Darryl

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Re: WTF?! Where are my injured troops?

Due to a help request I recieved last night, this bug has been forwarded on to Azzer. Stay tuned, folks.
 

Souls

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Re: WTF?! Where are my injured troops?

I'm pretty sure it's because the system takes "value killed", subtracts it by "value converted", and gives you what's left over. But if your BRs don't support that, then it's a bug! ;D
 

Loz

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Re: WTF?! Where are my injured troops?

do you get injuries from bribed troops ? i didnt think you did.
 

Darryl

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Re: WTF?! Where are my injured troops?

Loz said:
do you get injuries from bribed troops ? i didnt think you did.

No, you don't. And as Souls explains in his last post, you don't get injuries from the actual units that are converted, either, but, suppose that your attack results in a 50% injury rate, and you lose 100k men.

Vampires convert 30% of them, say, so of the 100,000, 30,000 are converted, then you get injuries from the 50% of the 70,000 staff that died but were not converted, so 35,000.

That's how it should work, but it isn't.
 

roger rabbit

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Re: WTF?! Where are my injured troops?

if it turns out to be a bug, then it should be fixed during this round. i would be hopping mad if i paid BC only to have it go down the drain by a vamp bug.
 

DarkSider

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Re: WTF?! Where are my injured troops?

Souls said:
I'm pretty sure it's because the system takes "value killed", subtracts it by "value converted", and gives you what's left over. But if your BRs don't support that, then it's a bug! ;D


Yeah i thought of that too. From the total money amount you should get back, it's substracted the converted value and then given back the injuries 1 type of unit at a time. When the money run out the remaining types get nothing.
 

f0xx

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Re: WTF?! Where are my injured troops?

That seems the most logical explanation to me, even tho it is a bug.
 

Cyrus

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Re: WTF?! Where are my injured troops?

vamps are definately bugged, attacked a vamp got like 1% injury, even though 50% was displayed.
 

Loz

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Bug?

Bug?

:shocked!:
injuries suck!!!!


today i was bored and need to kill some score so a rpg wouldnt keep hitting me. i attacked a jizz member for fun :p i sent eta5 (-2) this is what happened...

What i sent


Harvester: 10,000
Wheelbarrower: 343
Psychopathic Android: 10,000,000
Cybernetic Warrior: 2,500,000
Tyrant Drone: 2,500,000
Crazed Droid: 200,000
Cybernetic T-Rex: 100,000

first tick went bad ofc..

[range] 10,000,000 allied Psychopathic Android attacked, killing 3,398,206 hostile staff.
[range] 70,065,546 hostile Vampire attacked, killing 13,197,952 allied staff.
[raised] 955 corpses twitched into life, becoming Lesser Vampire.
[range] 12,198,837 hostile Gargoyle attacked, killing 853,117 allied staff.
[range] 819,155 allied Cybernetic Warrior attacked, killing 6,778,319 hostile staff.
[range] 15,228 allied Crazed Droid attacked, killing 46,806 hostile staff.
[range] 58,540 allied Tyrant Drone attacked, killing 2,063,427 hostile staff.

Died: 14,051,069 [£871,096,963,000] friendlies dead. 12,286,758 [£203,238,842,600] enemies dead.
Converted: 955 [£15,280,000] friendlies converted.

You gained 557,206 effectiveness.
Your staff had an average injury rate of 60% for all deaths in this battle.


the server died so i couldnt recall what little i had left so second tick went like this...

[middle] 275,497 allied Psychopathic Android attacked, killing 87,554 hostile staff.
[middle] 17,876,141 hostile Werewolf attacked, killing 1,194,147 allied staff.
[middle] 12,095,344 hostile Gargoyle attacked, killing 63,762 allied staff.
[middle] 682,297 hostile Mummy attacked, killing 1,117 allied staff.
[middle] 8,807,561 hostile Lesser Vampire attacked, killing 248 allied staff.

Died: 1,259,274 [£186,244,472,000] friendlies dead. 87,554 [£3,910,746,000] enemies dead.

You gained 41,781 effectiveness.
Your staff had an average injury rate of 60% for all deaths in this battle.



i really dont care about the attack or that i got pwned tbh but it says 60% injury rate and what i got is..

from the first tick

Harvester [3,038]
Wheelbarrower [172]
Psychopathic Android [219,187]
Cybernetic Warrior [215,890]
Tyrant Drone [65,084]
Crazed Droid [9,898]
Cybernetic T-Rex [1,809]

second tick...


Psychopathic Android [165,298]
Cybernetic Warrior [491,493]
Tyrant Drone [35,124]
Crazed Droid [9,136]
Cybernetic T-Rex [54,512]


just look at the pa's i sent 10mil and on both BR's its says 60% injury rate but i got less that 10%.

anyone got a clue why ?

vamps bug FTW
/me restarts and goes vamps :twisted:
 

Loz

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Re: WTF?! Where are my injured troops?

another nail in the coffin cant hurt?

injuries suck enemies suck all the new changes Suck >.<
i want bushtarion back were i can kill some one,
 

Loz

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Re: WTF?! Where are my injured troops?

yeah thanks..... it was a Dream of mine ever since i read one of your posts.
 
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