Re: @Azzer - IRC Op abuse of power
Hell BlackWolf, for once i'm inclined to agree with you, to some degree anyways.
I am willing to admit that No-Dachi and yourself didn't really have it out to get me so let's consider that one solved. But WD left a pretty personal attack on me which was, well frankly, uncalled for, insulting and rude. You ask me to consider WD's feelings, well think of mine. I'm an OP who has long been irritated with the inconsistency of Operators and with many of the same complaints you find yourself involved in; and one who tries to be as fair as possible. Then to have this, for lack of a better word, petty complaint thrown into my face is beyond insulting. We are all human, and people make mistakes. Yes he made a mistake asking for IDs, and it's possible I made one by kicking him (although i still stand by my action for kicking; i realize that a more reasoned explanation could have helped the situation). However, the crude personal attacks on me are unnnecessary. WD could have achieved his purpose by doing exactly what Nameless did and posted a thread requesting a change of IRC rules, or a clarification without being so vociferously personal.
He gets mad at me for doing my job, and then complains that other OPs don't do their jobs. Settle on an opinion my friend, either accept that some of us try very hard and occasionally make mistakes; or prefer OPs who do nothing. Personally, I'm vastly more supportive of human operators who can make mistakes than someone who is completely unrepentant and doesn't do anything. No sense in naming names but we all know how it goes....
BlackWolf said:
I pologiese now to you if you felt offended by my posts, I personally think that you followed the rules and you did exactly what rules told you to do. I just dont think that is what I would have done or what I think was the right thing to do.
Apology accepted. That makes me feel good to hear. I was very offended by many of the posts in this thread as I strive very hard to be a good OP and it is very, very insulting to have myself compared to others when (in your opinion) all I did was a little mistake. Let us remember that on both sides of this equation there are humans, human beings who err, make mistakes and are both convinced they are in the right.
I didn't initially understand that you believed I did what was right by the rules and that I followed the rules to the letter. I thought you were annoyed at my behaviour in general. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion and thus you have my apologies for the misunderstanding.
This is the source of frustration for me:
WildDisease said:
This term has been referred to countless times by the IRC operator which either means the ops (more like just Alcibiades) are not properly doing their job
WildDisease said:
all of the ops are rather USELESS and do not do a thing because they are never around. Alci, Bobbin and Markb are about the only ones who actively do their job.
So first I'm not doing my job, and then i'm one of three who does it? Come now sir, make up your mind.
WildDisease said:
(that personally, disgusts me, hence my disrespect shown to fellow operator, Alcin00b)
Those phrases were both beyond unnecessary. Get me to agree to your point, or want me to apologize by insulting me, surely that's the best way to go about it.
As I have posted numerous times, both before and after I became an OP, i feel that the current staff needs a big ole cleansing and that the IRC rules (more recently i agree) need to be reviewed and perhaps altered. As I said in another thread, the problem is with the Operators, not with the rules in general, apart from the shocking lapse of not having one prohibiting solicitation of IDs under any circumstances. Any sort of general thread I probably would have accepted, discussed in, and gone along with with the minimum of fuss. As it stands, personal attacks aren't really very useful, constructive or interesting.
To answer No-Dachi as it relates to warnings: I have never seen a warning have any effect in #bushtarion. I've been on the receiving and the issuing end, and quite frankly it doesn't really accomplish squat. Kicks have far more effect as it forces the player (or 'victim' if you prefer) to think, at least temporarily, about their actions. Especially for older players... people who should know better.
Anyways, if he really feels that hard done by, then he can consider he has my apologies for being overly swift on the kick button. If I apologize to him, I expect an apology in return for the unnecessarily rude, venomous and pointed attacks at an OP who tries, very hard, to be just. Apologies are a two way street....
