Nerf Tractors/Combines

[Polo]

They're ridiculous.

They need about two thirds of their current armour or double/triple their cost and stats.

 

[tobapopalos]

I agree. I'm surprised more people don't use them, though maybe that's because not everyone has a few trillion to spend on flak.

 

[Iamsmart]

Jup.

Edit: After reading a couple threads I found about tractor flakking, I just hope this one doesn't end up a 'I know more about the game than you' gayfest.

Good luck, thread.

 

[Alcibiades]

I'd be inclined to agree as well. They are stoppable, but it takes a lot more than it should for their cost and ease of availability.

 

[Max]

There's always the solution of bringing back CDs!

Crazed Droids used to be able to get 1:3 on tractors. Over three ticks that's 9 dead tractors to every CD, which used to be amazingly cost effective (over 1:7 in terms of cost).

 

[Cheese]

Or possibly a limit of 10m of each?

 

[Ezekiel]

Just give each route a unit that has +500%hd +500%ad vs tractors bonus. Or what % makes sense.

 

[Martin]

There's always the solution of bringing back CDs!

Crazed Droids used to be able to get 1:3 on tractors. Over three ticks that's 9 dead tractors to every CD, which used to be amazingly cost effective (over 1:7 in terms of cost).

^^

 

[Davs]

There's always the solution of bringing back CDs!

Crazed Droids used to be able to get 1:3 on tractors. Over three ticks that's 9 dead tractors to every CD, which used to be amazingly cost effective (over 1:7 in terms of cost).

I love the fact that this comment is the best solution to a suggestion made by Polo XD

 

[Polo]

Changing CDs back to a Tractor killer is a horrible idea.

 

[moorer]

As an alternative how about doubling their eta on attacks to make them less attractive as an attacking option

 

[TaO]

But doubling their ETA would mean..
If you run your troops as solo or allied person, and you can't recall you troops in time..
Your 31 ticks without a single unit at home..

 

[webvictim]

Doubling the ETA would also mean you could get a quick and easy "sleep" period of 35 ticks at full seed gain (assuming you left enough units at home to harvest) with no possible "valuable" units (i.e. expensive LET) being lost, only land. That'd make it pretty easy to avoid sleep mode and just send to ID 1 for a quick and easy six hours without having to worry about your units or low seed gain.

I think that's probably a reasonable argument against that potential solution.

Surely the main reason more people don't flak with tractors/combines is because they're so slow?

 

[Alcibiades]

But doubling their ETA would mean..
If you run your troops as solo or allied person, and you can't recall you troops in time..
Your 31 ticks without a single unit at home..

So run them separately if you're allied(19 possible ally mates, ID 1 and the HQ), and send to a PNAP/ID1 if you're solo. Pretty easy to do there.

I also like Cheese's idea of limiting the maximum number of them you can acquire. Perhaps on a sliding scale according to your amount of land so you aren't stuck with like 500k tractors for 50k acres or whatnot. May not be the best solution but i kind of like the idea.

Also simply jacking up their cost an immense amount and reducing their Armour might be the simplest and easiest solution.

 

[Max]

I would find it wonderfully hilarious if steps were taken to increase the tractor price, reduce their armour and increase their eta... only for everyone to start massing combine harvestor flak instead xD

 

[Cheese]

But doubling their ETA would mean..
If you run your troops as solo or allied person, and you can't recall you troops in time..
Your 31 ticks without a single unit at home..

So run them separately if you're allied(19 possible ally mates, ID 1 and the HQ), and send to a PNAP/ID1 if you're solo. Pretty easy to do there.

I also like Cheese's idea of limiting the maximum number of them you can acquire. Perhaps on a sliding scale according to your amount of land so you aren't stuck with like 500k tractors for 50k acres or whatnot. May not be the best solution but i kind of like the idea.

Also simply jacking up their cost an immense amount and reducing their Armour might be the simplest and easiest solution.

The only problem with 500k tractors for 50k acres is that 500k tractors doesn't actually plant that many plants Because people sometimes save for days and days then would need alot more than 500k tractors to plant their seeds. I suggested 10m because you don't really need much more than 10m tractors a go, and if you do you would probs have quite a substantial amount of gards to compensate.

 

[Iamsmart]

Perhaps on a sliding scale according to your amount of land so you aren't stuck with like 500k tractors for 50k acres or whatnot. May not be the best solution but i kind of like the idea.

Also simply jacking up their cost an immense amount and reducing their Armour might be the simplest and easiest solution.

 

[Dennis]

Just reduce their armour? :S

 

[Davis]

Just reduce their armour? :S

this.

I mean in all honesty unless they're planned to be used as they are used whats the need for such armor? i mean keeping them alive at home ofc but still/

 

[LAFiN]

Make them immobile and bump their armor up a bit more. Fixed.