Sleep Mode

[Dark_Angel]

Ok, never hit sleep mode before.

Few problems with it. But first and foremost. Why can't I view mail while in sleep mode?

I'm also unable to view politics.

I'm an alliance leader - Leading an alliance gets a bit tricky if I'm not able to communicate atall whilst in sleep.

IMO there are enough restrictions to sleep mode without "disabling" socialising.

 

[Nitrous]

Don't go into sleep mode then.

But you cannot view mail / politicis (I THINK) so that people cannot take advantage of being able to see incoming and organising against it.

I.E. a person mails you current incoming, you organise vs it.

Like I said, i think its because of that.


(PS By "you", i mean a general you...not DA, YOU! )

 

[lavadog]

You shouldn't be able to do anything while in sleep mode imo. If you're on a vacation, you don't go on bush. If you're in sleep because you might get raped, that's you're right punishment for cowering out

 

[f0xx]

I just take those as downsides to sleepmode.

Are they needed? I don't know.

 

[Davis]

I completely disagree, you chose to go into sleep mode. It has its benifits and it has many disadvantages. Being a "leader" and going into sleep mode to hide from incs, are two completely different ideals. If you want to lead down cower. simple as.

 

[saint1d]

Surely the major disadvantage to hitting sleep should be the lack of seed production?

Totally agree with DA on this one.

 

[pinpower]

I think i agree with DA. Maybe just on being able to read mails. Although i dont see why it hurts to have mails and pols...?

You cant send attacks/defence, lower seed production, cant view alliance page...think thats enough downsides...

 

[Martin]

The reason being is that you shouldn't be able to co-ordinate with other members of your alliance if you are 'hiding' (for use of a better term) from the playerbase.

Sleep mode is not atm a convenience tool when it gets too tough, you get to save your arse, deal with the consequences.

 

[Tombi]

The reason being is that you shouldn't be able to co-ordinate with other members of your alliance if you are 'hiding' (for use of a better term) from the playerbase.

Sleep mode is not atm a convenience tool when it gets too tough, you get to save your arse, deal with the consequences.

I agree 100%, just when you hit sleep cos some ally hit you is by no means to say a reason for a rule change just because it isn't as convenient as you like.
If you want to 'socialise' use irc...

 

[WackyJacky]

I see no reason to not allow Mail/Politics use.

If someone wants to coordinate they will get the info another way (IRC, MSN) and be able to coordinate just as well as if they could use their mail. Thus it's just an inconvenience so why not allow it?

 

[Souls]

Geez, just be happy you can log in to your account while in sleep mode now :S

 

[harriergirl]

One more call for an overhaul to sleep mode? I'm for it.

However, I'm against being able to read mail, organise politics, whatever in sleepmode. Because I don't know about you, but when I'm really SLEEPING, I can't do any of those things.

 

[timtadams]

Geez, just be happy you can log in to your account while in sleep mode now :S

And what would be the point?
I think you should be able to read mail but not send any, same with politics.

Like WackyJack said, if they wanna organise defence, IRC

 

[Matthew]

Can you read texts from your mobile phone when you're asleep? No, I don't think the main purpose of sleep mode is to be used as a safety blanket when under a lot of incoming, I think its there to be used when you sleep or are going to be going into a period of inactivity. I don't think you should be able to communicate via ingame from sleep mode as it just encourages people to use it so that they can start making comprehensive plans etc. in politics meaning it turns more into a "time out" card.

Personally I done think you should be able to do anything in sleep mode.

 

[pinpower]

Geez, just be happy you can log in to your account while in sleep mode now :S

And what would be the point?
I think you should be able to read mail but not send any, same with politics.

Like WackyJack said, if they wanna organise defence, IRC

Think i agree with this. Just make it so you can view mail/pols but not able to reply post etc etc.

 

[Dark_Angel]

I just dont see the point in removing the socialising element of gameplay just because you're receiving/about to receive mass inc and have to sleep to avoid being raped.

I hit sleep mode because I had to hit bed. I hit sleep mode for 24 hours, not knowing how long I'd be off bush for. It so happened I was back on within 12 hours, and couldnt do anything, even read mail, for the remaining 12 hours.

Sleep mode is supposed to be a positive thing with a few negative drawbacks. At the moment there are a few too many negatives to make it worthwhile - at least for an active alliance member/leader.

 

[Weeble]

That's not the only reason people use sleep mode.. it's original purpose was so that people who were actually going to sleep could rest safe in the knowledge that their account would still be alive when they woke up. As such they didn't *need* to see any politics or messages etc. The point of sleep mode is to, effectively, hibernate your account for a time period; this includes reading and posting messages (mails/politics/etc). If you're using it just to prevent a few more incomings then it's a price you'll have to pay - besides, if the case is that you're using it solely to prevent any further incomings, chances are you're in an alliance that can communicate via other methods.

And sorry to nitpick - but why did you hit 24hr sleep when you don't normally sleep that long?!

 

[Dark_Angel]

That's not the only reason people use sleep mode.. it's original purpose was so that people who were actually going to sleep could rest safe in the knowledge that their account would still be alive when they woke up. As such they didn't *need* to see any politics or messages etc. The point of sleep mode is to, effectively, hibernate your account for a time period; this includes reading and posting messages (mails/politics/etc). If you're using it just to prevent a few more incomings then it's a price you'll have to pay - besides, if the case is that you're using it solely to prevent any further incomings, chances are you're in an alliance that can communicate via other methods.

And sorry to nitpick - but why did you hit 24hr sleep when you don't normally sleep that long?!

I didnt hit sleep mode based on how long I was "sleeping IRL" - I hit it based on how long I estimated I wouldnt be able to play.

This estimate was wrong, well over what I imagined.

What I'm trying to say is, some cons' of sleep mode have varying degrees of severity based on the type of player hitting sleep.

A solo player will be largely, if not completely unaffected by not being able to communicate/socialise when in sleep mode.

An alliance member will be affected to a larger degree - as he/she may need to know whats happening within the alliance and may not be able to get on IRC to find that out - even if they can a clear picture isnt always available

An alliance leader is perhaps most "blinded" by sleep mode - compare the cons of sleep mode for a solo player, to an alliance leader. If an alliance leader wants to do a good job, sleep mode, effectively, isnt an option - He/She loses control over the alliance, as effectively sleep mode prevents that person from doing many of the things he/she needs to be able to do.

Just my opinion.

 

[Weeble]

I understand that it's not necessarily a viable option for an alliance leader/member, but wasn't that one of the original points of sleep mode, to protect solo players?

I can see your points about how it's detrimental to an alliance member, I just don't see why it should be changed to allow it to be more convenient!
But anyway, this is a gripe, so gripe away!

 

[Martin]

You used mass sleep mode to stop a mass attack and to prolong your life, you think you should have the ability (ingame) to plan retals when you get out of sleep, defence for others etc. etc.

No!

If you hit sleep mode, you are hiding from the game (as that's what sleep is) you should not be able to be pro-active in your actions when you are under such strong protection.