Re: End of Round Awards - Discussion
[h:18ycqxxc]WARNING: Hidden text pieces contain foul language. Ye have been warned.[/h:18ycqxxc]
Fair play to Khaos for hitting us, i'd probably have done the same thing in their shoes. My 'gripe' if you call it such is that BYOB/BG did nothing that I was aware of to prevent, or even slightly hamper Khaos from taking rank 1 at pretty much the only time there was a real chance of doing so.
Shadow: As far as I can remember.... no one ever told me you were the resistance contact, and i'm not exactly hard to get a hold of in IRC. I'm there like *all the time*. And there was at least one attempt on my part to talk with Ogluk (in PM) about having BYOB relieve some of the pressure from Khaos on us; thereby giving us time to sleep/rebuild/rest and prevent Khaos from stealing rank 1. Also I'm almost certain he (amongst others) can confirm that in a private channel of our own with a few players from 2/3 of the 'top' allies this round can confirm I requested their help and berated them on numerous occasions. I'll post the logs if you want, but i expect Ogluk will talk to you come morning and straighten things out.
The extent of your contact with me before BG/Lude took you guys out:
[hidden:18ycqxxc]Session Start: Tue Nov 25 12:54:28 2008
Session Ident: ShadowLove
[12:54] Session Ident: ShadowLove (~Ghetto_Wa@92.12.44.29)
[12:54] <ShadowLove> Alci you there?
[13:04] <Alcibiades> yep
Session Close: Tue Nov 25 13:04:41 2008
Session Start: Tue Nov 25 13:05:44 2008
Session Ident: ShadowLove
[13:05] Session Ident: ShadowLove (~Ghetto_Wa@92.12.44.29)
[13:05] <ShadowLove> nah its kewl
[13:05] <ShadowLove> all sorted now
[13:05] <ShadowLove> thanx
[13:05] <Alcibiades> righto
no problem
Session Close: Tue Nov 25 13:05:55 2008[/hidden:18ycqxxc]
Several of the IRC convos I had with Ogluk regarding resistance(s) and the subsequent aftermath...
The startup:
[hidden:18ycqxxc]Session Start: Sat Nov 22 19:09:13 2008
Session Ident: Ogluk
[19:09] <Alcibiades> allo allo
[19:09] <Ogluk> hallooooo!!!
[19:10] <Alcibiades> so when is the resistance going to get tired of hitting the #1 and come get us?
[19:10] <Ogluk> possibly sooner rather than later....
[19:10] <Alcibiades> big surprise there
[19:11] <Alcibiades> absolutely pathetic
[19:11] <Ogluk> meh
Session Close: Sat Nov 22 19:12:10 2008[/hidden:18ycqxxc]
The middle parts:
[hidden:18ycqxxc]Session Start: Sat Nov 22 19:30:15 2008
Session Ident: Ogluk
[19:30] <Alcibiades> you're BYOB right?
[19:30] <Ogluk> yah
[19:30] <Alcibiades> i hope you aren't teamed up with us
[19:31] <Ogluk> lol
[19:31] <Alcibiades> cuz we're just about half dead from today
[19:31] <Ogluk> and we have 7 online...
[19:31] <Ogluk> lol
[19:32] <Alcibiades> 10 of us online
[19:32] <Ogluk> we're doomed to failure if we do send together lol
[19:35] <Alcibiades> aye
[19:35] <Alcibiades> we really are
[19:35] <Alcibiades> see?
[19:35] <Alcibiades> exactly why this is a ****ing pointless waste of my time
[19:35] <Ogluk> well, yer...
[19:35] <Ogluk> Martin's planning is *****
[19:35] <Ogluk> we cant take 4 targets between 4 allies....
[19:38] <Alcibiades> yeah
[19:38] <Alcibiades> he's ****ing out of his mind
[19:38] <Alcibiades> and grumpy
[19:38] <Ogluk> lol
[19:39] <Alcibiades> he should go play in traffic it'll make me feel better
[19:39] <Ogluk> haha
[19:39] <Alcibiades> he was threatening us with being killed and now he's behaving like a spoilt child
[19:39] <Ogluk> only reason hes in there is because they were hitting DW and DW bitched at them
[19:40] <Alcibiades> then he of *all* people should understand exactly how Desperados feels?
[19:40] <Alcibiades> what the **** is he playing at being a tard
Session Close: Sat Nov 22 19:42:02 2008[/hidden:18ycqxxc]
The followup:
[hidden:18ycqxxc]Session Start: Fri Dec 05 14:30:25 2008
Session Ident: Ogluk
[14:30] <Alci|HL> Died: 100,027,240 [£4,773,307,651,000] enemies dead. 32,393,073 [£1,423,606,739,500] friendlies dead.
[14:30] <Ogluk>
[14:30] <Ogluk> nice!
[14:30] <Alci|HL> so get off your lazy ass and kill Khaos
[14:31] <Ogluk> get someone to pull a proper resistance together and i will
[14:31] <Alci|HL> bollocks
[14:31] <Alci|HL> your boys have plenty of ability to bash one of two targets
[14:31] <Alci|HL> if you get any pressure on Khaos it'll help
[14:31] <Alci|HL> i don't care for a proper resistance yet
[14:31] <Alci|HL> but this is bullshit
[14:31] <Alci|HL> and you know it
Session Close: Fri Dec 05 14:35:59 2008[/hidden:18ycqxxc]
f0xx:
f0xx said:
It was really funny seeing how Alci was whining about getting their ass wooped and about the "apathy" of BYOB and BG... I have no idea why he was thinking that it was our duty to help them.
I was whining about the nature of your hypocrisy in that you guys pushed and pushed for a resistance against Exitlude, and then suddenly did nothing while Khaos stood there running off with rank 1. (before you argue this point we've already established it in G-Pols)
I wouldn't have presumed you had an SNAP with Khaos other than the fact that your BG members hopped onto the bandwagon and sent with Khaos on us.... (BYOB also joined the party too, belatedly as I recall, but y'all were there) and that you didn't lift a finger to help us, or even explain why you weren't doing squat. That would've helped clear up that misunderstanding here I think. No you didn't owe us an explanation, but it would have convinced me that you weren't actively working together, or had an agreement of sorts with them. Yes I appreciate that 'free land is free land' but it seemed rather counter productive of the 'so called resistance' to let Khaos get that big, that fast. I'm not even sore about dying or expecting that you'd come to our rescue, that would have been a nice side benefit to you guys killing Khaos; but alas was not the focus of my anger. If you still can't see that, well, I guess I just can't help you. It wasn't your 'duty' to help us, but rather as you guys were seemingly focused on getting that first resistance off the ground, i was struck by the sudden lack of initiative on your part. That's all
f0xx said:
We had very very valid reasons not to attack khaos while they were hitting Desperados and it was not an snap, but oh well, he is still fresh, he will learn one day
Enlighten me then, oh wise and noble leader? Your valid reasons were because you wouldn't be there? or is it something else?
Edit: I'm trying to clear up a few details here as no one ally seems to have the complete picture or fully understand the actions of the other allies. I don't claim to know the whole truth, and I'm prone to making the occasional exaggeration
particularly when I'm angered.... and in a few of my G-Pols posts I was attempting to 'goad' BG/BYOB into action. That would account for the SNAP accusation etc. I don't really care in the long run anymore how you guys feel about our actions this round; we played a round we enjoyed including a good many ups and downs but I did want to clear up a few things just before i 'left this laying where Jesus flang it'.