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Old 21-05-2013, 10:41 PM   #841
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Old 21-05-2013, 10:45 PM   #842
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Twigley needs to get out more you mean
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Old 21-05-2013, 10:52 PM   #843
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so glad that post got deleted before Lilow got back....
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Old 21-05-2013, 10:54 PM   #844
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you mean this one clem? wasnt deleted
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Old 21-05-2013, 10:57 PM   #845
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Old 21-05-2013, 11:01 PM   #846
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you mean this one clem? wasnt deleted
nah the one in our alliance pols with those websites or was it on IRC, i can't remember, it was an impressive list.
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Old 21-05-2013, 11:03 PM   #847
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no no. we expanded his horizons on acceptable websites for this. he even opened notepad.
haha! bet it was like watching a baby deer walk for the first time
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Old 21-05-2013, 11:03 PM   #848
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nah the one in our alliance pols with those websites or was it on IRC, i can't remember, it was an impressive list.
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Old 21-05-2013, 11:16 PM   #849
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The alliance which had hit us most, damaged us most, and stolen our lands most. After that you crumpled so quick and disbanded it was a scramble for acres. And the fact trans joined in i didnt even know til now! That a little funnys , did you approach them for help too only to have it turn around and bite you for napping with rank 1 and bashing ftf alliance to the point they would have jumped on which ever of you two lost....maybe one of thier members can explain how they joined in, id guess same as us. You told them you had inc, and had bashed them is my guess
I'm sure that is what happened. Again, I wasn't online so I'm not positive. Please clarify something for me though. You keep saying we bashed you guys. Weren't you attacking each other as well? Alliance lists weren't common knowledge, weren't we all just hitting the targets in range? We never set out to specifically bash any particular alliance.
I say bash as in, organised massing at 05:00-06:00gmt, maybe you forgot those hits? It happens. But i remeber them, and our members were a bit worried by them tbh. Our weak time getting massed two days in a row. You were a threat to us having an enjoyable ftf round. We begrudged the over the top massing at stupid oclock in the morning. It hurt and was effective. Least mada just used thier score advantage for leverage to grab land, and sheer flak adavanatage. Ergo the grudge had begun


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I thought you guys had learnt this round. Thought you knew what happened and why. But either your playing politics with 3 days to go, or you have painted some picture of what happened that is not quite right, well not from my memory.
This is part of why I finally did speak up. Everyone seems to have some idea that we were working with Mada to pick on everyone else. We didn't attack Mada for the first 9 days of the round. That was it. We never once went on a coordinated attack with them, we never arranged with them to bash the smaller alliances, we didn't share intel with each other. We just refrained from attacking each other for a little over a week, it was never anything more than that.
Thats all it needed to be, more than enough to severely damage the game in its current state

do you remeber the alliance stats page, not more than measly 100 odd acres had been exchanged between your two alliances iirc? Some riddiculously small value. When you have a player base of 100- 200 active players and of that half are active enough to be successful at the start. You end up with 50-100 players playing trying and in range of the top ranks. When two 20 man alliances nap. Thats 40 players reduce thier targets by 33% and concentrate thier attacks on the remaining player base it can be very damaging. And when in particular they go after alliances en mass to make it harder to block stuff. Or easier to get clean kills when lethals come out, (no need to calc ar). those two alliances tend to feel quite put upon.

In bushtarion 9 days at a round start is a lifetime. I know i was in recons alliance when it won the round with in the first 7 days before.


Not trying to have a go. Just wanted you to be able to see things from our alliances persepective. And see how we could be quite angry and frustrated by what you did, and why. Even if it was done through naivety and with best intent, but hell rounds ending, all is forgiven, learning curve over. Lets forget this nonsense.
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Old 21-05-2013, 11:29 PM   #850
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so glad that post got deleted before Lilow got back....
Damn you all ... I missed out on all the fun AND you take away from me the one thing I can whinge about

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Old 22-05-2013, 12:32 AM   #851
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There's a Discworld controversy????
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Old 22-05-2013, 01:04 AM   #852
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not really. someone used politics to convince calamity that we conspired against ww at the start. i'm being called a liar, but this other person is believed implicitly without question. in short much retardation is going around, but there is no controversy. I've not lied to anyone. People are manufacturing stuff to cover their insane behavior and poor choices. DW only joined arms against ww at the start as they were already falling. We had a chance for rank 1 at the end, but we were massed. Now we're 3rd.

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Old 22-05-2013, 03:54 AM   #853
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Not trying to have a go. Just wanted you to be able to see things from our alliances persepective. And see how we could be quite angry and frustrated by what you did, and why. Even if it was done through naivety and with best intent, but hell rounds ending, all is forgiven, learning curve over. Lets forget this nonsense.
I didn't take it as you trying to have a go Willy. I appreciate you taking the time to discuss it and show me the reasoning behind the frustration and anger. Last round was my first round back in years and the landscape of the game was very different last time I played. The way you've put it, it makes a lot of sense and as I've said, it's not a mistake I'll make again. Thank you again for the civil discussion, and may next round be better for everyone
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Old 22-05-2013, 07:40 AM   #854
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This is far too nicey nice
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Old 22-05-2013, 09:40 AM   #855
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it's round end. it's all but done. nothing more to see or say. *tucks stargazer into bed*
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