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Old 19-04-2012, 02:48 PM   #1
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Default Round 44 - A single FTW alliance?

Would it not make more sense, where it is clear there is to be just a single FTW alliance, that those involved in the FTW just call it a day and join FTFs instead?

If there's 20 competitive guys sitting at rank 1 and a fairly empty victory is their only target for the round, wouldn't it be better for them to spread (amongst 4/5 FTF alliances?) just so there's a bit more competition between the FTFs?

Its a shame that there's only 1 FTW alliance this round but in all seriousness, there's no point putting Usain bolt in the paralympic 100m.

TLDR - If there's only 1 FTW alliance this round disband and join the FTFs so a bit more happens.
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Old 19-04-2012, 03:04 PM   #2
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I heard word on the grape vine that there was a rumble about a split, but then it's hard to tell if what you hear third hand is true and not, and even if it was suggested, the chances of things actually happening are also fairly limited...

That said, the lower allies at the moment are purposely keeping scores low to keep out of range of the Top 10 to keep them bored
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Old 19-04-2012, 03:05 PM   #3
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So Attitude was not for the win then? I don't mean this as a troll, I was just wondering if we had a situation with only one FTW alliance, or we just had two (as has been usual the last few rounds) and one won more speedily than usual.
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Old 19-04-2012, 03:28 PM   #4
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I have no idea what Attitude were intending, but they took a similar approach member-wise as I did with HC last round by the looks of it: A core of experienced players, with players that had never had much experience in higher-ranked gameplay.

There are times where you think "Hey, it's a different time now, maybe I can give some new people a chance at success", then an alliance made up mostly of vets (avec ANQ last round/possibly HW this round) comes along and sort of proves people just cannot let go and teach people, or give other players a chance. Or maybe even inject some competition into a round.

And whilst yes, some of you in HW may not be all-out gunning for success, there are definitely some members in there that cannot stand losing (and I'm terribly sorry for costing some of you that comfort & expectation last round), and will learn the hard way that swift victory nowadays is a very empty victory indeed.
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Old 19-04-2012, 03:35 PM   #5
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Alci: Attitude were FTW. The intention, strategy and general consensus were that we would be gunning for the top. Alas, sometime you don't have what you think you've got, and sometimes you're simply outrun. We were outclassed in lineup, and were not even playing in the same league when it comes to caring and putting in the effort needed. As DaX said we had a nice core, with a lot of wild cards put in. Some of the core was unable to play the start, and some of the wildcards were simply ****. It happens though, and although there's slight disappointment in Attitude that we lost the round so quickly, there's no shame in losing to a better opponent.
Afaik there was at least one other FTW alci, but I cannot remember if it was LC or SC.
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Old 19-04-2012, 03:39 PM   #6
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Agreed. No shame in losing, I've been there more times than I can count. And I love you Dachi, of course.

Well perhaps the round will spice up eventually. Not til after I get 1 billion Attack Dogs though
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Well I can definitely say Sixth Commandment have no intention nor capability of holding or taking rank 1.
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Dark Angel, whilst I agree with your comments, I have a strong feeling that someone will always rise to fill the power vacuum, essentially.

So even if you DID have a round FULL of FTF players, I still think one would say "hey guys... we could win this!!!"

That being said, I'm a massive fan of people giving up the FTW playstyle altogether and just taking it easy
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Dachi wins sportsmanship award for losing graciously. Nice to see that rather than the usual mix of excuses and bitterness.
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Dachi wins sportsmanship award for losing graciously. Nice to see that rather than the usual mix of excuses and bitterness.
+1. Especially when HW taunt him with their alliance picture.
eh sadly 1 or 2 members ruin the bunch as far as image goes :/
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Old 19-04-2012, 05:44 PM   #13
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Dachi wins sportsmanship award for losing graciously. Nice to see that rather than the usual mix of excuses and bitterness.
+1. Especially when HW taunt him with their alliance picture.
I think the slightly ungraciousness on our part is due to Lukey mocking our line-up in relation to his (and Dachi's), pre-ticks. It did make the win slightly more warm and fuzzy.
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Attitude had nobody to 2v1 with /troll
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Old 19-04-2012, 06:38 PM   #15
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but then it's hard to tell if what you hear third hand is true and not, and even if it was suggested, the chances of things actually happening are also fairly limited...
Not when the alliance has Martin and me in. I've left rank 1 alliances more times than I've stayed in them and Martin is pretty similar in that respect.

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There are times where you think "Hey, it's a different time now, maybe I can give some new people a chance at success", then an alliance made up mostly of vets (avec ANQ last round/possibly HW this round) comes along and sort of proves people just cannot let go and teach people, or give other players a chance. Or maybe even inject some competition into a round.
That's complete crap. I'm always willing to give players a chance if they catch my eye in game or on the forums. For example, Alcibiades hadn't played in a "FTW" alliance before I recruited him for War? Huh? after reading some impressive forum posts from him.

The funny thing is, pre-round, Lukey was saying that HW was just "Polo, Martin and n00bs".
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