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Old 16-08-2011, 07:34 PM   #136
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1st of all Steve God ur a wank, 2 10 man alliances?
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't Steve's comment about kiwi splitting into 2 ten man alliances and still winning a compliment? I wouldn't complain about such an acolade In fact, I am inclined to agree that kiwi could win with half their players, they are that good and that committed. I can't keep up with that shizzle (not allied anyway )
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Old 16-08-2011, 09:13 PM   #137
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1st of all Steve God ur a wank, 2 10 man alliances?
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't Steve's comment about kiwi splitting into 2 ten man alliances and still winning a compliment? I wouldn't complain about such an acolade In fact, I am inclined to agree that kiwi could win with half their players, they are that good and that committed. I can't keep up with that shizzle (not allied anyway )
Correct - Godsend just didn't get it... does that mean he trolled himself?
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Old 16-08-2011, 09:13 PM   #138
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the noobs even got two ppl on one tick, can't even train properly. Shows what it takes to win when the rank 1 alliance cant even train ppl properly
Pretty sad attempt at trolling but tell me, if it's oh-so-easy why aren't you schooling us all? Please, teach all of us the secrets of this game oh wise one.

Also @Andy or whatever, I think you'll find that when 5/6 of your targets (none of which are usually above 35%) are in sleep mode, a few hundred acres are really quite hard to come by.
i cant be bothered, this game is a joke. it's a shame we will never know how good your alliance is.
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Old 16-08-2011, 09:39 PM   #139
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Godsend is just kinda a troll. Not gonna lie. It's as if something about being in Kiwi makes him feel the need to wave his dick around everywhere :/
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Old 16-08-2011, 09:53 PM   #140
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Old 16-08-2011, 09:57 PM   #141
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Victim Kiwi [7] Attacking 64,000,000 ETA 5 ticks
Victim Kiwi [6] Attacking 109,250,000 ETA 5 ticks
Victim Kiwi [5] Attacking 192,549,436 ETA 4 ticks
Victim Kiwi [4] Attacking 163,050,000 ETA 3 ticks
Victim Kiwi [3] Attacking 90,500,000 ETA 2 ticks
Victim Kiwi [2] Attacking 93,049,612 ETA 1 tick
Victim Kiwi [1] Attacking 110,129,115 Att. for 3 ticks
Total Incoming: 822,528,163 hostile

Never knew 300/400 acres was so hard to come by...
It does seem (to me anyway) a style of play that is guaranteed to suck the fun out of this game.

Where's the chance of a good exciting battle when your oversending like that.

Guess that brute force land grabs are easier than well worked out attacks. But I am not sure that, were I in their position, the prospect of 2 months of unopposed land grabs holds much entertainment value.

But, they will win the round I suppose and bravo to them for that but will it be as much fun as it could be?
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Old 16-08-2011, 10:15 PM   #142
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Since when was the game about fun? ;o
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the noobs even got two ppl on one tick, can't even train properly. Shows what it takes to win when the rank 1 alliance cant even train ppl properly
Pretty sad attempt at trolling but tell me, if it's oh-so-easy why aren't you schooling us all? Please, teach all of us the secrets of this game oh wise one.

Also @Andy or whatever, I think you'll find that when 5/6 of your targets (none of which are usually above 35%) are in sleep mode, a few hundred acres are really quite hard to come by.
i cant be bothered, this game is a joke. it's a shame we will never know how good your alliance is.
We can get a measure of that from last round, surely? If Kiwi are 80% Charades, we can infer from this that Kiwi aren't as good as TBA, and that in a round where another FTW alliance exists they'd probably fail.



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But, they will win the round I suppose and bravo to them for that but will it be as much fun as it could be?
Since when was the game about fun? ;o
Since there is only one ftw alliance.
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the noobs even got two ppl on one tick, can't even train properly. Shows what it takes to win when the rank 1 alliance cant even train ppl properly
Pretty sad attempt at trolling but tell me, if it's oh-so-easy why aren't you schooling us all? Please, teach all of us the secrets of this game oh wise one.

Also @Andy or whatever, I think you'll find that when 5/6 of your targets (none of which are usually above 35%) are in sleep mode, a few hundred acres are really quite hard to come by.
i cant be bothered, this game is a joke. it's a shame we will never know how good your alliance is.
We can get a measure of that from last round, surely? If Kiwi are 80% Charades, we can infer from this that Kiwi aren't as good as TBA, and that in a round where another FTW alliance exists they'd probably fail.



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Where's the chance of a good exciting battle when your oversending like that.
We managed to defend the first tick against them of a similar train and got this:
Died: 108,564,410 [405,105,905,000] enemies dead.
...with no losses.

Problem is that while we forced 3 recalls from the first waves, the train was so long they still got 3 land grabs before we could resend to scare off the rest
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Where's the chance of a good exciting battle when your oversending like that.
We managed to defend the first tick against them of a similar train and got this:
Died: 108,564,410 [405,105,905,000] enemies dead.
...with no losses.

Problem is that while we forced 3 recalls from the first waves, the train was so long they still got 3 land grabs before we could resend to scare off the rest
Well that's good, make people work for their land. It's the nature of the beast. People are acting like this is some isolated incident and Kiwi are total assholes. But every round, someone pulls ahead and bashes at 30% (mostly because that's the only place there are any targets) which leads to trains.

It's easy to condemn and say "Oh, our alliance does attacks with several targets across multiple ETAs and 'good planning' etc etc" but anyone who has played at the top knows that it's not that simple when your only targets are +2 ETA and a few of the top players only have 1-2 targets at all. It's hard to "plan" anything other than "Okay, send behind to cover my LT and you'll probably get land too" and then all the other sharks smell blood in the water and send behind them. It's usually not a case of "Okay let's get on the land train!" but more people simply seeing an opportunity and taking it. Doesn't everyone do the same in some form or another? No one attacks planning to lose.

Also, regarding the whole "FTF vs FTW" thing.. Assuming Kiwi suddenly disappeared, someone would pull ahead by having increased activity and being more contactable than the competition. Does that mean they are no longer FTF but now FTW? Kiwi simply saw an opportunity to seize the win and took it. Can you say you wouldn't do the same? Also, "FTF" is a bit of a misnomer really, as I have a whole lot of fun playing to win. I wouldn't do it if I didn't think it was fun, at least sometimes. Every round I play with a different goal in mind, and this round was to play hard at the start and help secure the win and then be able to decrease my activity so I can spend my last few weeks with my girlfriend without having to get on every night for defense etc.

Anyway, I ended up ranting a little bit. I'm looking forward to seeing the Rank 2-6 alliances battle it out for 2nd and 3rd, looks like it could be really interesting. Also, I'm sure if the leaders talked to Kiwi then we could organize a period of a few days where wars could be had without Kiwi getting in the way.

Oh, one more thing. Nearly everyone is Kiwifruit gets on really well. So if we split into 2 groups of 10, then we wouldn't really want to attack each other and it'd end up being two 10man alliances at the top "power blocking" which would incite even more hatred and unfair criticism ... So that's that idea out the window.
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Just for reference for those that weren't around back then and think I'm just crazy for even backing up the idea that it could 'actually' be done, a group called 'Core' split into two towards the end of the round in Round 8, and that was when a private alliance had a limit of only 15, and public of 30.
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Just for reference for those that weren't around back then and think I'm just crazy for even backing up the idea that it could 'actually' be done, a group called 'Core' split into two towards the end of the round in Round 8, and that was when a private alliance had a limit of only 15, and public of 30.
http://www.bushtarion.com/portal/por...hp?ShowRound=8
not saying that it cant be done, but considering that Cores two alliances were as big as the next 19 alliances combined, I would think it was impossible to not to win.

In this situation, Kiwi are 'only' just bigger than the next 4 alliances combined.

Also, you say core split near the end of the round. There is less time to be resisted near the end of the round.

Thus, while interesting, it is not a very good comparison.
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Thus, while interesting, it is not a very good comparison.
Maybe not... but it's the only one I got lol
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