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Old 15-06-2013, 12:34 PM   #31
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As Max said, WKs are ridiculous at killing Cybrog gards. Why waste money on hippies + gren when you can get those badboys for free.

Wk get about 1:4.75 CG from what i have seen.
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Old 18-06-2013, 09:57 AM   #32
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As Max said, WKs are ridiculous at killing Cybrog gards. Why waste money on hippies + gren when you can get those badboys for free.

Wk get about 1:4.75 CG from what i have seen.
Ive seen wk do better than that over 1:5 in some cases? In addition now tyrants are out they reem cg pretty good and have low eta, get a robo nap if you are trying to stop cg landing you

Also nothing wrong with grenaiders. They get that extra layer of armour based damage with some health damage before rangers and dragons fire. It makes a difference. Though they are very weak and die to easily for thier cost.
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Old 18-06-2013, 03:30 PM   #33
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grens when allowed to fire do so much damage to the robo route. that's why you should always have a small handful of grens. take them on attack, they REALLY wipe out the cw after the striker fire - Didn't they used to be eta 6 in the way back or was that heavy weapons that was eta 6?

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Old 18-06-2013, 03:33 PM   #34
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HWs were eta 6.
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Old 19-06-2013, 09:51 AM   #35
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nothing in your route is efficient at stopping cg other than hippys
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Old 23-06-2013, 12:25 AM   #36
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Just a brief gripe to all those terrible lowbie CG players out there that may read this:

Stop buying pure CG. It is so fail at your rank, it pains me. Go l2p.
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:35 AM   #37
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Last time i recorded stats for cg vs guru it kinds showed guru to be terrible maybe 1:2 (though my ratio suggests a bit better) im sure at the least they could do better than 1:1. But saw this just now


[close] 92,205 allied Hippy attacked, distracting 75,966 hostile staff.
[close] 4,600,000 allied Protestor Guru attacked, distracting 2,827,153 hostile staff.
[close] 291,786 allied Hippy Van attacked, distracting 283,159 hostile staff.
[close] 20,000 allied Yob attacked, disabling 29,102 hostile staff.
[close] 1,032 allied White Knight attacked, slaying 13,235 hostile staff.
[close] 65,397 allied News Van attacked, distracting 1,132,451 hostile staff.
[close] 78,075 hostile Wheelbarrower stole 301 land. [116] tree. [155] bush. [15] flower. [15] grass. [0] uncultivated.

Distracted: 4,318,729 enemies distracted.
Disabled: 29,102 enemies disabled.
Died: 13,235 enemies dead.

I checked the sent units 15mil ish troops sent, Cg player, not more than 200k wheelie. So everything points to this is genuinely the ratio guru got on cg. But its massively different from what i recorded.....has there been a buff? Or debuff? Or did i just always have it down wrong.
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:56 AM   #38
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If you have the old BR you might want to check for hippies stripping for guru's.

Guru's have never done 1:1 on CG afaik.
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Old 02-09-2013, 05:41 PM   #39
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Cheers ias. Yeah i was thinking i must have it down wrong because the ratio i have is well off and not cost effective.
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:55 PM   #40
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gurus only get 1:1 on a REALLY good day.. with some help. hippies are the only real blocker that is almost cost effective against CG
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:18 PM   #41
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SGTs are marginally more cost effective than hippies at stopping CGs I think (standalone). Although if a unit fires after the hippies it will typically perform better as hippies can strip a CG without automatically blocking it (lack of HD) while SGTs are the opposite.

So yeah, hippies are still the best bet, and fortunately ubiquitous
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don't SGT get like, 1:1 on CG? Hippies get about that at half the price

edit: It should be noted that I have never actually play CG in W1..
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:51 PM   #43
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Nor me I wanna play them one round and see the massive fuss
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Old 02-09-2013, 09:11 PM   #44
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the fuss is, if you are noob and can't attack, you send some flak and some cg and you land, almost always.
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Old 02-09-2013, 09:36 PM   #45
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meh, it's a great route. Problem is there's very few intelligent players (this sounds rude, I really don't want it to be but I don't know how to phrase it better) that can use CG's properly without spending half their funds on CG's (specifically at the round start). It's an amazing wave tool as well.

The problem some people have with the route:

1) People slow their teching down beause they buy too many CG's. A good CG player can literally win the round on ~day 7 by himself. An early land stealing unit that can, if not massed, allows you to continue teching with 0 impairment and hit a massive power curve at CW's.

2) Losing flak is losing flak. Just because you can steal land with CGs doesn't mean you should.

3) It pisses off your alliance members that you either have so much land (and don't necessarily deserve it, silly logic often) or that you have spent so much money on CGs. This can, however, be a good thing if you can hold the land and hit a good power curve, but it also makes you a target with minimal defense and tons of land. Again, pisses of your alliance.

4) People like PA's too much

5) People like CW's too little (and would rather go nano/PA).

If I didn't make it clear, CG's should be nerfed or removed from the game. **** you Twigley I know you made the suggestion (as have other people) like 133 years ago.
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