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Old 07-11-2012, 07:37 AM   #1
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Does anyone have flak ratios or/and an up-to-date harvester calc lying around?

Would be helpful to have them as I can't bother to use firefox just for bushtarion :p
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Old 07-11-2012, 09:45 AM   #2
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For flak ratio's:

http://www.bushtarion.com/forums/sho...ighlight=ratio
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It's not flak ratios, it's best ratios.

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Old 07-11-2012, 11:50 AM   #4
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Best ratios are usually on flak (bar PAs and rangers and stuff).
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Best ratios are usually on flak (bar PAs and rangers and stuff).
But doesn't e.g. LET/ALL mean that only 30% target INN (even if no other types of units present), so best ratios can be about 70% + 30% (full firepower, against e.g. attack dogs and gardeners) not just attacking pure INN flak.

Yes, I mean INN flak ratios, not any type of "flak".

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But most of what gets killed will be gards. It is good enough if you're too lazy to just learn the ratios.
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Im pretty sure its best ratio's against pure flak
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I'm pretty sure you are wrong. Apaches will get a lot better ratios on dogs and flak than flak alone (them targetting LET INN). Joss' question is totally legit, unfortunately I don't have it. You could get NBS and then hax and note down all the numbers (it has them on the hover over tooltip), and afaik those are accurate on gards.
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most of the time most of what gets killed is flak. But on the not so often occasion that doggies and/or armour strippers and/or sirens are involved, that's when you get best ratios.

So yeah, it'll do if youre too lazy to work it out yourself it gives a good indication, but is far from accurate.
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Also note that some NBS values are out-dated!

I would take the "Best Ratios" thread and use it as a point of first call though. Then naturally, just reduce it slightly to get an indication of the true value.

I haven't got anything tabulated to send you though, unfortunately I just use what I know from experience
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I'm pretty sure you are wrong. Apaches will get a lot better ratios on dogs and flak than flak alone (them targetting LET INN). Joss' question is totally legit, unfortunately I don't have it. You could get NBS and then hax and note down all the numbers (it has them on the hover over tooltip), and afaik those are accurate on gards.
I don't disagree that in some cases units will get better ratios on LETs + flak, but if you're going to be lazy about it you might as well use the best ratios thread. If you're attacking apaches with flak and the best ratio is 1:20 then you can safely assume the apaches you're attacking won't kill more than 1:20 (made up that ratio so please don't be all OMG APACHES DON'T DO 1:20!!!!11!1!).
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I doubt any of the NBS numbers are out of date - pretty sure he only put that function in after Azzer stopped updating the game...

Harvester calc=136.392 harvesters/bush 42.624 harvesters/tree for start of round. NBS is 100% accurate in its calculations for it now (it used to be slightly off a while back).
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Old 07-11-2012, 08:00 PM   #13
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Harvesters per acres
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Spring/Summer: 42.64
Autumn/Winter: 92.32
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All: 136.32
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Summer: 839.84
Others: 530.4
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Spring: 2478
Others: 1363.92

It tails off at higher acres but it won't matter too much
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Meh, it might not me on pure flak then, but it has allways worked pretty well for me
I dont really see the problem, if you use the 'best ratio's' you dont have anything to worry about! If you really want the real ratio's so badly then you should, like most people said, just find them out yourself!
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I'm pretty sure you are wrong. Apaches will get a lot better ratios on dogs and flak than flak alone (them targetting LET INN). Joss' question is totally legit, unfortunately I don't have it. You could get NBS and then hax and note down all the numbers (it has them on the hover over tooltip), and afaik those are accurate on gards.
I dont doubt that you are right at all, and i wont say that apaches dont get better ratio's on LET+flak then on only flak but.. didn't the people who submitted their ratio's to the 'best ratio's' thread test it on pure flak? If not i was deceived all this time!
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