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willymchilybily 10-10-2011 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by timtadams (Post 74425)
Quote:

Originally Posted by tobapopalos (Post 74422)
tobys list of reasons of why camping at hq is sucky.

So youve managed to point out a number of issues with HQ camping. You have not explained why it is scorequeening..

Id like to add that you care more about preserving your own troops than being able to defend others. it also gives you no troops to stop land steals and relies on your alliance defending you because you want to sleep/go afk. pretty selfish

not on all occasions is preserving troops score the act of queening i agree with that. sometimes it is smarter to live and fight another day, and as toby pointed out there are ways and means to do that too.

The issue i have is when someone or thier alliance sends to hq regularly, then moans at an alliance who sent at the HQ to try and kill the targets they want to kill because those targets arent home. Then has the mindset to insult the alliance and its members on the battles they chose to fight and call the entire said alliance "score queens" that just shouts hypocrit to me. Thats what i think is sad. Especially when every shred of evidence shows the oposite. Not to mention im pretty sure they only want you to stay when they might win. Yet when you do stay on certain death they parade the battle report round like some magnificent shrine to be worshipped, claiming its some marvelous feat and said alliance who suicided is some how inadequate.

Hell to be honest i cant blame them. Ive seen alot of rank 1 incoming in my time. You have to take the small victories and use it for moral. You dont have to be a dick to the alliance in question though, and try to wind them up and resort to name calling, then go on forums all serious when they respond (perhaps childishly)and rub thier victories in your face for a change, because you riled them. What did you expect?

LuckySports 11-10-2011 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willymchilybily (Post 74439)
Quote:

Originally Posted by timtadams (Post 74425)
Quote:

Originally Posted by tobapopalos (Post 74422)
tobys list of reasons of why camping at hq is sucky.

So youve managed to point out a number of issues with HQ camping. You have not explained why it is scorequeening..

Id like to add that you care more about preserving your own troops than being able to defend others. it also gives you no troops to stop land steals and relies on your alliance defending you because you want to sleep/go afk. pretty selfish

not on all occasions is preserving troops score the act of queening i agree with that. sometimes it is smarter to live and fight another day, and as toby pointed out there are ways and means to do that too.

The issue i have is when someone or thier alliance sends to hq regularly, then moans at an alliance who sent at the HQ to try and kill the targets they want to kill because those targets arent home. Then has the mindset to insult the alliance and its members on the battles they chose to fight and call the entire said alliance "score queens" that just shouts hypocrit to me. Thats what i think is sad. Especially when every shred of evidence shows the oposite. Not to mention im pretty sure they only want you to stay when they might win. Yet when you do stay on certain death they parade the battle report round like some magnificent shrine to be worshipped, claiming its some marvelous feat and said alliance who suicided is some how inadequate.

Hell to be honest i cant blame them. Ive seen alot of rank 1 incoming in my time. You have to take the small victories and use it for moral. You dont have to be a dick to the alliance in question though, and try to wind them up and resort to name calling, then go on forums all serious when they respond (perhaps childishly)and rub thier victories in your face for a change, because you riled them. What did you expect?


I agreed right until you started going off on a tangent.. I'm not sure you've actually been reading the BR posts from us this round if you really think all that :P

willymchilybily 11-10-2011 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by LuckySports (Post 74448)
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Originally Posted by willymchilybily (Post 74439)
willys rant


I agreed right until you started going off on a tangent.. I'm not sure you've actually been reading the BR posts from us this round if you really think all that :P

I dont know what part you think is the tangent. (apart from everything for the past 10 or more pages given the name of the thread) I'm gueessing the "small victories" as anything else cannot be proven via Battle report....I consider anything a small victory that doesnt change the shape or dynamic of the current rankings, and simply prevented your alliance losing more score/land/moral

Although if this is the case you would have to show battle report(s) of us dying :P which kinda shows we cant be complete score queens, If we were then kiwi would only stay on the targets where you undersend or dont send, cant have it both ways. [should probably stop wanting to explore the tangent]

LuckySports 11-10-2011 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by willymchilybily (Post 74450)
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Originally Posted by LuckySports (Post 74448)
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Originally Posted by willymchilybily (Post 74439)
willys rant


I agreed right until you started going off on a tangent.. I'm not sure you've actually been reading the BR posts from us this round if you really think all that :P

I dont know what part you think is the tangent. (apart from everything for the past 10 or more pages given the name of the thread) I'm gueessing the "small victories" as anything else cannot be proven via Battle report....I consider anything a small victory that doesnt change the shape or dynamic of the current rankings, and simply prevented your alliance losing more score/land/moral

Although if this is the case you would have to show battle report(s) of us dying :P which kinda shows we cant be complete score queens, If we were then kiwi would only stay on the targets where you undersend or dont send, cant have it both ways. [should probably stop wanting to explore the tangent]

your tangent was you going off on how much you think we enjoy or appreciate or love or whatever word fits (none seem to fit it quite right) the battles.. Your post started off about HQ camping, and ended up on being called score-queens for recalling on an attack.. :P

Btw - there are Scorequeens (who try to avoid troop loss anytime) and scorequeens (who only avoid unnecessary troops loss, except when defending) I'm not a particularly big fan of either, but I would much rather have someone that defends and stays than someone that calls it a land hit if there's any chance of not winning the BR

Hamilton 12-10-2011 08:41 AM

Leeroy's suicide

Battle Report - Defending Combo
[range] 100,000,000 allied Psychopathic Android attacked, killing 25,526,511 hostile staff.
[range] 84,425,007 allied Secret Agent attacked, killing 361,534,184 hostile staff.
[range] 113,438,464 allied Vampire attacked, killing 275,284,418 hostile staff.
[raised] 1,712,841 corpses twitched into life, becoming Lesser Vampire.
[range] 91,067,576 hostile Vampire attacked, killing 114,877,237 allied staff.
[raised] 2,620,308 corpses twitched into life, becoming Lesser Vampire.
[range] 77,734,539 allied Harrier attacked, killing 83,536,947 hostile staff.
[range] 3,651,623 hostile Gargoyle attacked, killing 8,595,333 allied staff.
[range] 24,458,092 allied Cybernetic Warrior attacked, killing 20,451,566 hostile staff.
[range] 22,868,047 allied Ranger attacked, killing 25,153,976 hostile staff.
[range] 7,074 allied Werewolf attacked, killing 4,839 hostile staff.
[range] 28,966,153 allied Apache Longbow attacked, killing 31,967,034 hostile staff.
[range] 23,825,702 allied Tyrant Drone attacked, killing 1,540,525 hostile staff.

Died: 825,000,000 [17,150,000,000,000] enemies dead. 123,472,570 [3,461,185,109,000] friendlies dead.
Converted: 1,712,841 [27,405,456,000] enemies converted. 2,620,308 [41,924,928,000] friendlies converted.

LuckySports 12-10-2011 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AndyCrotty (Post 74506)
See Above

lost 20m vamps, 14m SA, 17m Lessers (poor guys!) and not much else... apparently he was trying to recall last-second and died.. Kind of like the RPG in my ally that was waiting till last-second to send out from an SA rush and failed.. :P

That is why procrastination is bad! I'll go over some more reason tomorrow.. maybe next week

Podunk 12-10-2011 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckySports (Post 74507)
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyCrotty (Post 74506)
See Above

lost 20m vamps, 14m SA, 17m Lessers (poor guys!) and not much else... apparently he was trying to recall last-second and died.. Kind of like the RPG in my ally that was waiting till last-second to send out from an SA rush and failed.. :P

That is why procrastination is bad! I'll go over some more reason tomorrow.. maybe next week

But I like RPG procrastination :(

edd 12-10-2011 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckySports (Post 74507)
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyCrotty (Post 74506)
See Above

lost 20m vamps, 14m SA, 17m Lessers (poor guys!) and not much else... apparently he was trying to recall last-second and died.. Kind of like the RPG in my ally that was waiting till last-second to send out from an SA rush and failed.. :P

That is why procrastination is bad! I'll go over some more reason tomorrow.. maybe next week

Agreed :(

LuckySports 12-10-2011 11:47 PM

and procrastination strikes again! same rpg died again.. :P

Hamilton 13-10-2011 04:51 PM

Leeroy dedicating his final suicide to Combo <3

Battle Report - Defending Combo
[close] 2,000,000 allied Hippy attacked, distracting 1,805,708 hostile staff.
[close] 14,070,717 allied Striker attacked, killing 1,111,585 hostile staff.
[close] 87,638,593 allied Secret Agent attacked, killing 348,648,549 hostile staff.
[close] 29,475,119 hostile Vampire attacked, killing 15,439,003 allied staff.
[raised] 1,551,126 corpses twitched into life, becoming Lesser Vampire.
[close] 77,631,622 allied Harrier attacked, killing 28,361,441 hostile staff.
[close] 1,411,686 allied Yob attacked, disabling 327,990 hostile staff.
[close] 32,697,363 allied Apache Longbow attacked, killing 5,311,157 hostile staff.

Distracted: 1,805,708 [4,257,511,600] enemies distracted.
Disabled: 327,990 [19,679,400,000] enemies disabled.
Died: 383,432,732 [6,146,913,234,600] enemies dead. 15,439,003 [938,128,307,600] friendlies dead.
Converted: 1,551,126 [24,818,016,000] friendlies converted.

You gained 2,302,442 effectiveness.
You gained 16.97 fame.
You gained 12.75 honour.
You will soon be receiving 6,120,000,000 insurance.

Steve_God 13-10-2011 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyCrotty (Post 74652)
Leeroy dedicating his final suicide to Combo <3

Battle Report - Defending Combo
[close] 2,000,000 allied Hippy attacked, distracting 1,805,708 hostile staff.
[close] 14,070,717 allied Striker attacked, killing 1,111,585 hostile staff.
[close] 87,638,593 allied Secret Agent attacked, killing 348,648,549 hostile staff.
[close] 29,475,119 hostile Vampire attacked, killing 15,439,003 allied staff.
[raised] 1,551,126 corpses twitched into life, becoming Lesser Vampire.
[close] 77,631,622 allied Harrier attacked, killing 28,361,441 hostile staff.
[close] 1,411,686 allied Yob attacked, disabling 327,990 hostile staff.
[close] 32,697,363 allied Apache Longbow attacked, killing 5,311,157 hostile staff.

Distracted: 1,805,708 [4,257,511,600] enemies distracted.
Disabled: 327,990 [19,679,400,000] enemies disabled.
Died: 383,432,732 [6,146,913,234,600] enemies dead. 15,439,003 [938,128,307,600] friendlies dead.
Converted: 1,551,126 [24,818,016,000] friendlies converted.

You gained 2,302,442 effectiveness.
You gained 16.97 fame.
You gained 12.75 honour.
You will soon be receiving 6,120,000,000 insurance.

Nice BR to end on:
You gained 6,009,384 effectiveness.
You gained 44.32 fame.
You gained 33.32 honour.
You will soon be receiving 83,570,684,520 insurance.
:)

Rowan 14-10-2011 01:14 PM

Whoops dat eff
whoops dat eff


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